This experiment shows the really mysterious behavior of quantam particles. Electrons behaving like waves and then like marbles? Mind blowingly cool.
Digged here.
This comment by <a href="http://digg.com/users/onezerozeroone" title="digg / onezerozeroone / dugg">onezerozeroone</a> on Digg is worth noting regarding this video:
"The video did a poor job of explaining the "observer" of the electron.
The observer isn't a giant eye, and merely looking at an electron (with your eyes) isn't going to do anything.
By observer, the video means an instrument used to detect the position of the electron. Any instrument that you can use to detect the position of a particle must interact with it. Think of a table in the middle of a dark room. You reach out and feel around for it with your hands until you bump into it, slightly moving the table. Or you bounce sound waves off of it like a bat to locate it, again slightly moving it.
Before an electron or photon is interacted with in such a way, it is in a super position of states, like the video says. This can be represented by a wave where the peaks and valleys indicate the probability that the particle is in a certain position. Once you interact with the particle, this wave "collapses" and assumes a single state. The state it goes into is based on the probabilities. In the case of the slit experiment, 50% goes thru slit A, 50% thru slit B. On average, the same number of electrons collapse and go through each slit, creating the two bands.
If the electron isn't interacted with, the wave function never collapses. Just like a water wave, the "probability wave" representing the state of the electron gets squeased through both slits and the two resulting waves interfere with each other. Just like with water, certain parts of the interference pattern are augmented and some are attenuated. But remember, they're still probabilities. The electron will have a higher chance of of hitting the wall where the peaks are strongest."
Physics is cool, but the movie this clip is from was total junk. Yes, it borrowed some nice science, but used it to try to legitimize total new-age bullshit. Words effecting ice crystals? Talking to dead Atlantean gods? What a load of crap.
To thewhiterhino: Darwin isn't talking about the clip, he's talking about the entire film it is pulled from. The film, to put it nicely, is bullshit. It tries to legitimize New Age crap by picking and choosing bits and pieces of information from physics. For a good look at how quantum physics really works, see sickmachine's post.
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forteller on Feb 28, 2006 08:03 AM
This comment by <a href="http://digg.com/users/onezerozeroone" title="digg / onezerozeroone / dugg">onezerozeroone</a> on Digg is worth noting regarding this video: "The video did a poor job of explaining the "observer" of the electron. The observer isn't a giant eye, and merely looking at an electron (with your eyes) isn't going to do anything. By observer, the video means an instrument used to detect the position of the electron. Any instrument that you can use to detect the position of a particle must interact with it. Think of a table in the middle of a dark room. You reach out and feel around for it with your hands until you bump into it, slightly moving the table. Or you bounce sound waves off of it like a bat to locate it, again slightly moving it. Before an electron or photon is interacted with in such a way, it is in a super position of states, like the video says. This can be represented by a wave where the peaks and valleys indicate the probability that the particle is in a certain position. Once you interact with the particle, this wave "collapses" and assumes a single state. The state it goes into is based on the probabilities. In the case of the slit experiment, 50% goes thru slit A, 50% thru slit B. On average, the same number of electrons collapse and go through each slit, creating the two bands. If the electron isn't interacted with, the wave function never collapses. Just like a water wave, the "probability wave" representing the state of the electron gets squeased through both slits and the two resulting waves interfere with each other. Just like with water, certain parts of the interference pattern are augmented and some are attenuated. But remember, they're still probabilities. The electron will have a higher chance of of hitting the wall where the peaks are strongest."
Meurglys on Feb 28, 2006 11:01 AM
Nigel: It really puts perspective on things, though, doesn't it? David: Too much, there's too much fucking perspective now.
sickmachine on Feb 28, 2006 02:17 PM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html is much better and equally as engaging
coolgars on Mar 01, 2006 03:58 AM
Thank you sickmachine for this excellent link.
zeronecc on Mar 01, 2006 08:01 AM
I saw the movie, it's great. Peace Brothers.
Meurglys on Mar 02, 2006 07:23 AM
Indeed. Thanks, sickmachine. :)
Darwin on Mar 03, 2006 03:37 PM
Physics is cool, but the movie this clip is from was total junk. Yes, it borrowed some nice science, but used it to try to legitimize total new-age bullshit. Words effecting ice crystals? Talking to dead Atlantean gods? What a load of crap.
thewhiterhino on Mar 31, 2006 02:37 PM
WTF is Darwin talking about, he didn't say any of that mess....
zydehkim on Apr 02, 2006 01:56 PM
To thewhiterhino: Darwin isn't talking about the clip, he's talking about the entire film it is pulled from. The film, to put it nicely, is bullshit. It tries to legitimize New Age crap by picking and choosing bits and pieces of information from physics. For a good look at how quantum physics really works, see sickmachine's post.
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